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27.03.2009 21:38:00
The Subject: Asus M50Sv was acquired in the summer of 2008, six months later the factory hard WD has worn, a lot of BAD sectors.
replaced under warranty on Seagate ST9320320AS. Three months after the replacement has also begun to fall - appeared bad sector which does not want to be diverted (see HDDScan report.)

1. whether it is possible to save hard?
2. More importantly - could it be the reason for such a quick death screws, not in their marriage, as in the Toshiba?

thanks
27.03.2009 21:46:00
Frequent shaking nouta? Can themselves dropped screws? He is seen often in the stores that they dropped a fork and calmly put on the counter.
27.03.2009 21:48:00
that's the thing - almost no shaking, the laptop is on the table and the house is almost not be imposed. I did not fall even once
27.03.2009 21:58:00

laptop is on the table

Children small house there?
27.03.2009 22:06:00
I did not notice) any specials. the reasons for such problems are not
me at the moment interested in whether you can remedy the situation without having to replace Hardy (like right now only one bad sector that it can not remapnut)
I, in principle, ready to buy a new hard not to tinker with the guarantee, but already afraid of whether it will suffer the same fate.
Can such damage be caused by the Note, its associated circuits for example, something like that?
27.03.2009 22:21:00

temperature of a tall, comes to 53 and 55 have a limit. So what I think is cool. Norma 40.
So far he has only one sector is not deductible.
You just need to rewrite it.
Of course, if it accounts for an important file or FS structure. That they will not be read korektno.
can use Victotia 4. 46 (remap)
27.03.2009 22:30:00
buy a laptop stand
28.03.2009 10:58:00
thanks for the tips, over temperature - stand to buy as something not desirable, cumbersome work. whether it is possible differently to solve the problem, for example by replacing Hardy at a "cold"? Or the problem only in the cooling system nouta?
28.03.2009 16:46:00

. . . (like right now only one bad sector that it can not remapnut)
bedov until you can not see. . . UNC-there's one mistake. . .
set on the screw "Victoria" with a check mark "remap". . . it will correct this sector.
28.03.2009 20:52:00
seems that Victoria has not coped with the task, in addition to the same errors found many "problematic" sectors.

Victoria 4. 46b Freeware (12. 08. 2008) log file. 28. 03. 2009
18: 00: 26: Starting Victoria 4. 46b Freeware (12. 08. 2008), 2xCPU, 2494, 10 MHz, Windows Vista found.
18: 00: 38: API access enabled, device # 1
18: 00: 38: Get passport. . . OK
18: 00: 38: 48bit access enabled
18: 00: 38: Model: ST9320320AS; Capacity: 625142448 LBAs; SN: 5SX25VQ4; The FW:
0303 18: 02: 02: Get passport. . . OK
18: 02: 02: Recallibration. . . OK
18: 02: 02: Starting Reading, LBA = 0. . 625142447, sequential access w. REMAP, tio 1000ms
18: 02: 57: Warning! Block start at 7224064 = 203 ms
18: 04: 37: Warning! Block start at 19918336 = 421 ms
18: 06: 35: Warning! Block start at 34348800 = 203 ms
18: 07: 00: Warning! Block start at 36221184 = 203 ms
18: 38: 00: 108 157 840 the LBA try REMAP. . . Error
18: 38: 01: Warning! Block start at 108279953 = 234 ms
18: 39: 08: Warning! Block start at 116140177 = 468 ms
18: 39: 09: Warning! Block start at 116199569 = 390 ms
18: 39: 10: Warning! Block start at 116274577 = 312 ms
18: 48: 07: Warning! Block start at 183416209 = 296 ms
18: 48: 08: Warning! Block start at 183510929 = 202 ms
19: 00: 34: Warning! Block start at 267193745 = 219 ms
19: 05: 35: Warning! Block start at 298683793 = 203 ms
19: 08: 18: Warning! Block start at 315856273 = 218 ms
19: 08: 20: Warning! Block start at 315931793 = 250 ms
19: 08: 20: Warning! Block start at 315973777 = 312 ms
19: 08: 21: Warning! Block start at 315975057 = 280 ms
19: 08: 24: Warning! Block start at 316186513 = 327 ms
19: 08: 25: Warning! Block start at 316248209 = 405 ms
19: 08: 27: Warning! Block start at 316404113 = 484 ms
19: 15: 37: Warning! Block start at 359139729 = 203 ms
19: 20: 38: Warning! Block start at 388152721 = 203 ms
19: 25: 39: Warning! Block start at 417250961 = 218 ms
19: 30: 41: Warning! Block start at 444075921 = 234 ms
19: 35: 41: Warning! Block start at 469936273 = 234 ms
19: 38: 43: Warning! Block start at 485197201 = 218 ms
19: 38: 47: Warning! Block start at 485385361 = 453 ms
19: 38: 50: Warning! Block start at 485604241 = 469 ms
19: 38: 50: Warning! Block start at 485651089 = 296 ms
19: 38: 51: Warning! Block start at 485652369 = 234 ms
19: 38: 52: Warning! Block start at 485673617 = 577 ms
19: 40: 42: Warning! Block start at 494954897 = 250 ms
19: 45: 43: Warning! Block start at 519153553 = 249 ms
19: 48: 07: Warning! Block start at 530567825 = 280 ms
19: 50: 44: Warning! Block start at 542166161 = 265 ms
19: 53: 18: Warning! Block start at 553749649 = 249 ms
19: 53: 46: Warning! Block start at 555901329 = 327 ms
19: 53: 47: Warning! Block start at 555976081 = 234 ms
19: 53: 53: Warning! Block start at 556375697 = 234 ms
19: 53: 55: Warning! Block start at 556409745 = 390 ms
19: 53: 57: Warning! Block start at 556516241 = 343 ms
19: 53: 57: Warning! Block start at 556535185 = 234 ms
19: 54: 00: Warning! Block start at 556713361 = 234 ms
19: 54: 19: Warning! Block start at 557850001 = 234 ms
19: 54: 21: Warning! Block start at 557949585 = 280 ms
19: 55: 13: Warning! Block start at 561468817 = 343 ms
19: 55: 13: Warning! Block start at 561523857 = 234 ms
19: 55: 15: Warning! Block start at 561620881 = 249 ms
19: 55: 31: Warning! Block start at 562642833 = 234 ms
19: 56: 28: Warning! Block start at 566378385 = 203 ms
19: 57: 26: Warning! Block start at 570289297 = 218 ms
19: 57: 26: Warning! Block start at 570306705 = 265 ms
19: 57: 36: Warning! Block start at 570846353 = 202 ms
19: 57: 37: Warning! Block start at 570860177 = 249 ms
19: 57: 37: Warning! Block start at 570879377 = 483 ms
19: 57: 40: Warning! Block start at 570998417 = 234 ms
19: 57: 41: Warning! Block start at 571036049 = 297 ms
19: 58: 47: Warning! Block start at 575529361 = 234 ms
20: 00: 32: Warning! Block start at 582838673 = 265 ms
20: 00: 32: Warning! Block start at 582892433 = 203 ms
20: 01: 46: Warning! Block start at 588044689 = 234 ms
20: 02: 47: Warning! Block start at 592229009 = 281 ms
20: 05: 01: Warning! Block start at 601748625 = 203 ms
20: 05: 16: Warning! Block start at 602766993 = 234 ms
20: 08: 01: Warning! Block start at 614170769 = 234 ms
20: 08: 03: Warning! Block start at 614279057 = 234 ms
20: 08: 05: Warning! Block start at 614330001 = 578 ms
20: 08: 06: Warning! Block start at 614356625 = 515 ms
20: 08: 19: Warning! Block start at 615229585 = 218 ms
20: 09: 16: Warning! Block start at 618949777 = 218 ms
20: 09: 28: Warning! Block start at 619612049 = 249 ms
20: 09: 36: Warning! Block start at 620123281 = 219 ms
20: 09: 37: Warning! Block start at 620162705 = 328 ms
20: 09: 39: Warning! Block start at 620206225 = 452 ms
20: 09: 40: Warning! Block start at 620242577 = 280 ms
20: 09: 43: Warning! Block start at 620454801 = 312 ms
20: 09: 44: Warning! Block start at 620458641 = 249 ms
20: 09: 48: Warning! Block start at 620692113 = 265 ms
20: 09: 49: Warning! Block start at 620736401 = 312 ms
20: 09: 50: Warning! Block start at 620853649 = 203 ms
20: 09: 51: Warning! Block start at 620906385 = 234 ms
20: 09: 56: Warning! Block start at 621210257 = 234 ms
20: 10: 59: ***** Scan results: Warnings - 81, errors - 1 *****
20: 39: 14: PIO access enabled. Base = 170h, Alt = 376h
20: 39: 35: API access enabled, device # 0

maybe I misunderstood something done? (Cm. Screen)
28.03.2009 21:08:00

Seagate ST9320320AS
Screw SATovy. Try it to connect a stationary car and drive to Victoria Hospital. It is possible that some problems with noutom. Can yuzhnik overheating for example, a contact or a bad example.
28.03.2009 21:53:00
frankly, no conditions, no skills for such experiments, it is better at once in service. however, it is unclear pokakim grounds, so the laptop works fine, standard tests of Windows do not show anything
28.03.2009 22:07:00

. . . maybe I misunderstood something done? (Cm. Screen)
Vitoria, to run from a bootable CD, but not with the system disk. . .
28.03.2009 22:37:00
Launches Version 3. 51, she writes constantly Error initialising HDD and something like "Hard rejected the team." Do not even get SMART data can
general, hdd connection with the program is completely absent, although in Windows everything works fine
29.03.2009 3:02:00

Very interesting how veremeni she will check with the disc. How this method reliably and efficiently than say check with other CDM?
29.03.2009 9:27:00

. . . How this method reliably and efficiently than say check with other CDM?
I do not quite understand. . . about what rechya
on the system drive, "treat" can not. . .
It is also dangerous for the data, and. . . Windows can not give access to overwrite sector,
which is, a system file (error-remap) a thread.
As for speed, it is natural, screw speed test with another system drive will be faster. . . .
29.03.2009 14:00:00
In general, when booting from the CD or Victoria or MHDD hard not to see. Motherboard IntelĀ® PM965 Express, maybe it's the problem?

there are still some ways to fix the UMC? preservation of information is optional, but desirable
29.03.2009 14:16:00

. . . neither Victoria nor MHDD hard not to see
Ndaaa. . . . many beeches, are "cunning" controllers. . .
Then, you will have to remove it from the beech and to connect to a PC directly. . .
only the password to remove the screw in the beech (if installed).
29.03.2009 15:37:00
t. e. there is no other way? otformatit screw for example, if it is indeed UNC, should help, right?
29.03.2009 16:05:00

that's the thing - almost no shaking
191 G-sense error rate of your pictures obratnoe- claims 39 impact loads, ie, bumps, shocks, etc....
29.03.2009 16:06:00

otformatit screw for example, if it is indeed UNC, should help
When formatting is overwritten relatively small fragment screws (tens to hundreds of megs). Hoping that the record falls on the sector with bedom. . . You can just make erasure (Write / Erase) in MHDD, Victoria, Victoria API or HDDScan. If the bed was soft-then he will leave. But the boot is going to have to something else, because you will overwrite the entire screw including a section with OSes. However, the formatting is the same: do not otformatit partition with Windows if it is running from this section.
Well, then. UNC - is Uncorrectable by ECC. This does not necessarily softbed. While there is no record held IMHO impossible to say, a soft-bed it or not.
29.03.2009 16:14:00

I in this case meant not a cure, but just check it, too, it is desirable to start with a boot, and if a failure can not in the process of reading from the boot disk to influence the treatment of CDM already well or testing? I was just on future developments.
And Ida through the CDM can be all this was done with SATA2?
29.03.2009 20:59:00

. . . not a cure, but simply check
Check you have already done, now we need to just treatment.
And about the "desirable". . . It is always advisable to check the screw,
program, running from other media, and in zhedatelno DOS-e. . .

. . . through Ide CDM can all this was done with SATA2
possible though with AdelaIDE.
29.03.2009 23:28:00

Check you have already done, now we need to just treatment.
moment, you are talking about?

possible though with AdelaIDE.


About ide I sprosta to what they say about the controller issues ide on modern motherboards, connector itself in my empty yet, and the screw by hand only one (IDE), other than the principal (SATA), in yusb container is
29.03.2009 23:35:00
another question - whether the propeller can be connected to other computer via the usb - container, and from there to clean? or only through sata? and lost there at the same time guarantee (from the recesses of the screw)
30.03.2009 8:18:00

. . . what they say about the problem of controller ide
Problem there. . . \\ copying recordings from SATA to IDE, with intensive exchange,
and you just need to run the test program with him (IDE). . .

. . . you are talking about?
screw you checked and found the error. . . now it is necessary to treat. . . That's what I do. . .
30.03.2009 17:52:00

screw you checked and found the error. . . now it is necessary to treat. . . That's what I do. . .
I have not checked, no errors and no need to treat me
I just learned. . .
30.03.2009 21:22:00
ignored the question remains - is it possible to check a subject hard by connecting it via the USB-box to the other computer?
30.03.2009 21:42:00

. . . and I do not need to be treated. . . I just. . .
Do not worry. . . , About the treatment it was for.


. . . can check whether a subject hard
better directly. . . without any "boxes".
30.03.2009 21:46:00

ignored the question remains
no attention left answering the laptop dies on one second hard! # 10
SATA screw. It perfectly connects to conventional SATA connectors stationary computer.
16.04.2009 20:51:00
in general as long as I was going with the forces of hard still dead. And this time much harder, even bad blocks, but simply went some clicks and whistles, it just do not determined by the system.

am in SC. . What is it - I twice caught defective screws (such markups happen?!) Or it may be something in the laptop (connectors, power supply, etc...?) And then they again hard will change me and sit wait when he, too, will be covered
17.04.2009 9:53:00

. . . (this happens just do?!)
happens. . . this is called "bad luck." . . (Unless defective laptop).
We have somehow been "customer nevezushnik". . . I bought a computer.
So throughout the year, in a computer except flopika, Pogorelov Nurse 2, 3 BP,
vidyushki 4, 3 times I screw and 2x CD-ROM.
Thank heavens that the guarantee was only for 1 year. . . barely escaped from the client.

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