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What's wrong with the screw Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 60?

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05.11.2003 14:17:00
I have a screw Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 60, model - 5T040N4, ie 40 Gig... I decided to upgrade it to WD 800JB (80 Gig). So, I carry the old screw in the new company and take paying the 50 bucks and enjoy. The next day, when a grandmother has to take over the old screw, I am told that the pier can not take it t. To. He does not pass the test in the very first branded utility from Maxtor. I take away his home shake this company. utility (Power Max 4. 06) and test.
first test (Installation Confirmation) gave a cut-t - Smart Attribute check - Failed.
second test (Basic Quick test) - Advanced Test Required
third test (Advanced test) - showed that everything is fine, congratulated me so that the screw is in order.
So if my screw really bad or is he right? ? ? ? ? While he was with me worked without glitches like, infa not lost. The only thing was that the computer is turned on, he did not immediately plant (rarely).

PS new screw passes all of these tests are normal, from the 1st to 3rd, without any errors.
05.11.2003 14:26:00
We must look at what SMART attributes swears.
05.11.2003 14:52:00


Download SMARTUDM vylozhte here and all non-zero values ​​of S. M. A. R. T. Raw values. If you do not understand, of course
05.11.2003 23:45:00
SMARTUDM - HDD S. M. A. R. T. Viewer 2. 00
Copyright (C) 2001-2003, Sysinfo Lab
Copyright (C) 1997, Michael Radchenko
www. sysinfolab. com e-mail: support @ sysinfolab. com

2 nd HDD Model: Maxtor 5T040H4
2 nd HDD Size: 39083 Mb (38. 17 Gb)
th Location: Primary Slave
th Serial Number: T4HZK82C
th Controller Revision: TAH71DP0
th Buffer Size: 2048. 0 kb
th Compatibility: ATA / ATAPI-6 revision 24
th PIO Mode Support: 4
th SW DMA Mode Support: None
th MW DMA Mode Support: 2, Active: None
th UDMA Mode Support: 5 (UltraDMA / 100 ), Active: 5
th Current AAM Value: C0h (C0h recommended) - enabled
th SMART: [s] enabled
th SMART Self-test: []
th SMART Error Logging: []

th TEC prediction monitoring started at: 05-11-03, 22: 40: 08
Attribute ID Threshold Value Indicator 1 / Month TEC
ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
Raw Read Error Rate 1 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
* Spin Up Time 63 190 3 0 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
Start / Stop Count 4 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
* Reallocated Sector Count 5 63 253 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu. 0 Unknown
* Read Channel Margin 6,100,253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Seek Error Rate 7 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
* Seek Time Performance 8187253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Power On Hours Count 9 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 . 0 Unknown
* Spin Retry Count 10,223,214 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Yes
* Recalibration Retries 11,223,253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Drive Power Cycle Count 12 0252 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
reallocation Events Count 196 0253 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu . 0 Unknown
Current Pending Sector 197 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Uncorrectable Sector 198 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
UltraDMA CRC Error Rate 0 199 0 0 199 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
Write Error Rate 200 0 253 0 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
TA Counter Detected 201 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
TA Counter Increased 202 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
* Attribute 203203180253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 204 204 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 205 205 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 207 207 0235 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 208 208 0242 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 209 209 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 96 96 0253 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu . 0 Unknown
Attribute 97 97 0253 0 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
Attribute 98 98 0253 0 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
Attribute 99 99 0253 0 0 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu Unknown
Attribute 100 100 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
Attribute 101 101 0253 yuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyu 0 0 Unknown
ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
NOTE: "*" means life-critical attribute
! T. E. C. detected with life-critical attribute!

Attribute ID Threshold Value Worst Raw Type
ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
Raw Read Error Rate 1 0253252 000000000004h ER
* Spin Up Time 3 63190184 000000004563h PR SP
Start / Stop Count 4 0253253 0000000003D0h EC SP
* Reallocated Sector Count 5 63253253 000000000000h EC SP
* Read Channel Margin 6100253253 000000000000h
Seek Error Rate 7 0253252 000000000000h ER
* Seek Time Performance 8187253244 00000000F27Bh PR SP
Power On Hours Count 9 0253251 000000000049h EC SP
* Spin Retry Count 10223214199 000000000015h ER SP
* Recalibration Retries 11223253252 000000000000h ER SP
Drive Power Cycle Count 12 0252252 0000000002E5h EC SP
reallocation Events Count 196 0253253 000000000000h ER
Current Pending Sector 197 0253253 000000000000h ER
Uncorrectable Sector 198 0253253 000000000000h ER
UltraDMA CRC Error Rate 199 0199199 000000000000h ER
Write Error Rate 200 0253252 000000000000h ER
TA Counter Detected 201 0253245 000000000030h ER
TA Counter Increased 202 0253252 000000000000h ER
* Attribute 203 203180253252 000000000000h ER
Attribute 204,204 0,253,252 000000000000h ER
Attribute 205,205 0,253,252 000000000000h ER
Attribute 207,207 0,235,230 00000000000Ah ER SP
Attribute 208,208 0,242,235 000000000006h ER SP
Attribute 209 209 0253 253 000000000000h PR SP
Attribute 96 96 0253253 000000000000h PR
Attribute 97 97 0253253 000000000000h PR
Attribute 98 98 0253253 000000000000h PR
Attribute 99 99 0253253 000000000000h PR
Attribute 100 100 0253253 000000000000h PR
Attribute 101,101 0,253,253 000000000000h PR
ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
NOTE: "*" means life-critical attribute
Attribute types:
PR - Performance-related ER - Error rate
EC - Events count SP - Self-preserve

th Reallocated Sectors: 0
th Current Temperature: Not Supported
w Drive Power Cycle Count: 741
06.11.2003 15:04:00


All interesting tsifirki - second (numeric) table in the last column of hexadecimal.

precedes column (Value and Worst) is none other than the "quality" interpretation of these naked tsifirek disk controller. If it reduces the amount of Value - means that thinks that tsifirki higher than it should. But this estimate (as the original tsifirki) is considered important only for "critical" attributes marked with an asterisk. In such cases, it is a "forecast period work" drive - although in your SMARTe trognoza instead of the reason is one word "T. E. C. Yes".

So, look:

Raw Read Error Rate = 4 (probably not terrible, but the interpretation depends on the company and drive)

* Spin Up Time = 4563h (it is not clear, but, judging by the fact that Value once was lower than the current value (184 vs 190), it is estimated (-lsya) is higher than we would like)

* Seek Time Performance = F27Bh (something of the sort)

* Spin Retry Count = 15h (this condition attribute in the first plate is marked as TEC = Yes because the Value was lower than the Threshold: 214 vs 223, but were altogether 199; of course, this is just some kind of formal evaluation, prognosis, but it is given, probably on the basis of that "repeats (failure) promotion" must not occur - and there were 21 a piece)

otherwise, everything seems normal. Further

your fate depends on how the controller is supplied with the Value. If he reduces it with "non-repetition" error (it seems the way it is), then you should attribute an eye on "Spin Retry Count" in the course of further operation. If the counter (now 15h = 21) will no longer increase the value of Value from the current 214 may grow up to be above the threshold of 223. It is not excluded that the value of TEC = Yes disappears (ie stop the program signaled), exclamation marks from issuing disappear and stupid firmachi decide that there is no problem with the disk is not

Disclaimer : All my subjective interpretation, all the above - IMHO.
06.11.2003 20:31:00
Yes, actually I had such problems. I did not know how to translate Spin Retry Count. Now I myself looked in Hades that this option is below the norm, did not know how to interpret it. Kratz
I described it in his first report. When the computer long screw factory, at the time when he wrote Detecting IDE devices do not appear, and usually has issued a list of all devices (screws, sidyuk). But this was one time constant, then as it passed. Because of what it can be? ? ?
PSU like normal - Codegen 300W.
It is possible that this option to raise the normal position, and how? ?
or just juzat screw until he did not raise? ?
07.11.2003 4:24:00
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Yes, actually had such problems. I did not know how to translate Spin Retry Count. Now I myself looked in Hades that this option is below the norm, did not know how to interpret it. Kratz
I described it in his first report. When the computer long screw factory, at the time when he wrote Detecting IDE devices do not appear, and usually has issued a list of all devices (screws, sidyuk). But this was one time constant, then as it passed. Because of what it can be? ? ?
PSU like normal - Codegen 300W.
It is possible that this option to raise the normal position, and how? ?
or just juzat screw until he did not raise? ?
Spin Retry - a classic for Maxtor, I wrote in the next branch. Though not head squeaked when attempting to start the engine? Take a magnifying glass and look carefully soldering ceramic planar coils Lxxx rooms (dark brown next to the power connector, through which it goes to the electronics with connector) If there were microcracks - soldered. Freaks are cheap:)
And yet - despite the fact that no reallokeychennyh sectors - would I remove scan in mhdd - there are no problems with softbedami - their mhdd counts as UNC = in the right column / and make the erase, if any. . .
09.11.2003 22:24:00
That did not seem crunched. .
I understand Threshold is the value below which the Value (actual value) must not be omitted, otherwise it will signal an error. Now I Value - 221, and Threshold - 223. And before Value was 116. Gradually, this value rises. The idea is when the Threshold Value is greater then all the tests in the program will take place normally. I'm right?
10.11.2003 15:20:00
quote:
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That did not seem crunched. .
I understand Threshold is the value below which the Value (actual value) must not be omitted, otherwise it will signal an error. Now I Value - 221, and Threshold - 223. And before Value was 116. Gradually, this value rises. The idea is when the Threshold Value is greater then all the tests in the program will take place normally. I'm right?

Yes, but here it is, the value of RAW Spin Retry Count must be zero in principle. If there are non-zero values ​​- this is a serious reason to think - or head "stick" to the pancakes in the parking zone, or bearings "rotten", or as in the case described by me Electronics makes a fool - is any, it is an occasion very wary.
15.11.2003 14:36:00
HOORAY!
Spin Up Retry Count: Value - 228, Threshold - 223.
utility from Maxtor produces no errors. What was required.
Thank you
15.11.2003 21:39:00
It might be the case in the resistor to unpark heads - hung on the 1st conclusion IDE, conjugated. 1 ohm. If the resistance is more than the 5th, then 99% of the matter in it! (It is burnt during the operation and resistance uvlichivaetsya.)
15.11.2003 21:43:00

And what does the resistor on the IDE channel has to unpark heads?

16.11.2003 13:49:00
Read on
MHDD forum. There are many with this recommendation and contacted there a lot!

Maybe I messed up with an arrangement of a resistor, but it is actually responsible for Unparking. One person wrote that he simply closed and it worked.

16.11.2003 13:57:00
I go there occasionally azhozhu, but then something about it did not see anything, you can link?

likely confused t. To. The team at startup Unparking given screw internal firmware and not the interface.

16.11.2003 14:12:00

Today, look, you throw off the post!
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