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23.10.2002 11:43:00
Hi ALL,
There Maxtor 3-740: 2 80-ki and 60 ka. During commissioning, it has been observed (by touch), that one 80-ka heated considerably more than two other screws. Check in identical conditions dTemp "ohms (no matter how, the question now is not about the absolute figures and the relative) - indeed, 60-ki 32-34 Celsius, in one 80-ki 35-36, and the other - 42 -43 and these two 80-ki (or boards) collected clearly on different lines, according to the terminal -. in hot it is wider than the other two screws, with other vyrezamii, feet from the connector on the board not long round gilt, a short flat tinned tin look at the serial numbers -. oops - the difference in the second 80-Coy only 3 digits (13 -...... 16) the rest of the output is the same - Singapore there and so strange somehow... . at the sound of the same there is a difference - a hot screw is much quieter
The question is -.? what do you think, leave it or not can certainly cooler ponavesit, etc. But it is not this and not that 43... degrees is a lot (even install it in the slot and pripashi - everything will be 50). But if one is a range of temperatures, it is like - normal or not? Maybe it speaks of a "hidden threat"? (C) STAR WARS Who has the ideas and observations on this subject, pliz share statistics. From grain you protest two new barracuda-4-80g - those are equally at 40-42.
tips such as "all the same guarantee is..." Do not roll, there will be an order of magnitude more valuable infa warranty screws if guknetsya. . . Change is also not what - extend 740-e, we do not have them longer, as well, and 4 fish. New Maxtor does not like, and Fifth fish are no

P. S. And why 60-ka-ki colder than 80? Mikruhi same bank, too, pancakes 2, only heads smaller neuzh it temprchu knocks?
23.10.2002 11:57:00
Hmm, well, you said it yourself, that they are different, then it may very well be that there simply electronics and device is different. . another DLO if he basked under 70. . .
23.10.2002 12:55:00

just electronics and device different
So that's the thing - they should not like to be different! This is because the screws _odnoy_i_toy_zhe_ model, even though collected on different assembly lines. What then nafig standardization? ! I am interested in - the variation within tolerance or not, do you think? The case of a responsible, because quizzed tips, if just to take-for-family-house, it would have scored on that.
23.10.2002 13:07:00

responsible for backup use cases.
23.10.2002 14:20:00

self-other. . . For one thing. . . The specifics of this machine is that infa change very often and in large quantities - receiving client files for the execution of orders and the ability to pre-treatment. Often, there is no point in the backup (files quickly leave), and will not be the same all the time only backups do? In practice, there were cases when the screw was flying without waiting for backup. All the same it would be desirable confidence that equipment will not fail
23.10.2002 16:22:00

Sacrifice a virgin does not help?

seriously, a RAID-1 just coined for such cases like yours, when the disk is not your favorite porn gig, and the data is worth more than the cost of the disk (s).

A temperature - not a criterion, I can give the example of a couple on the Seagate 5GB 6, seamlessly working for the third or fourth year at a typical temperature of about 55 degrees.
23.10.2002 20:52:00

Victim definitely would help, but that's a virgin find no way can they become even more rare than the 740 th Maxtor!
RAID otpadaet, City tried it refused. Why - is not out of place. A second screw is there for other purposes.
Actually, guys, it's not about how to improve the reliability and so on. N., Methods are known to me. Question specifically whether reliable in your opinion screw whose parameters ORIGINALLY different from his brothers konveyeeru, and differ significantly.
By the way, I also believe that the temperature is not so terrible - there are screws that plow more than a year at 45-50 and even higher with additional. coolers (what can you do - hot for us).
In general, I tend to, to leave him, I was his pomuchal, it is more than 50 by any means is not heated. Put 5 "" compartment cooler and cooler, I think that everything will be OK. The main thing that he normally rest turned out to want to believe that he still came off the assembly line Maxtor, not the knees Liao grandfather, who Laban screws on the farm in the evenings after harvesting rice
23.10.2002 21:14:00
My tee advice. Climb to Maxtor's website and find the pdf with specific characteristics dannogot screws. If it turns out that the admission of the second screw is not suitable - feel free to go and me, but even so go and change, since dumb live. Just what do you need once again to spoil their nerves (daily thoughts "and if it does not overheat if it is working properly", and so on. D.), So go change. And generally on the SCSI to use for such a critical problem - there is superior reliability screws IDE many times. . . .
23.10.2002 22:27:00

Climbed repeatedly, watched, everything is normal, although the degrees norm there IMHO too broad (5-55), in any screw it in any computer you like. I know from experience that the troubles may begin with 45 degrees (or may not be under 55). Sorry, it is not clear about the tolerances put it, had in mind the characteristics of the spread. Let me explain one more time - it is not about absolute numbers and the relative. Why the two screws with a difference in the serial number in 3 digits so clearly differ in appearance and behavior? I am attempting for the people - whether one such fact to the same screws and what came of it?
About "Change" is also repeat - there is nothing more in the city (we) matroksov-740 is not present and is not likely to be delivered, they are already moving away, I think production dropped. Carefully read the postings should be (no offense to say). So it only to give up. Hence my flour emotional - and I want to leave, and fear (a pancake, like a joke
Your opinion "cdat" taken into account, thank you Basically, I would have done if the seller did not say that this is the last 80-ki (. it I believe) Opinion Shurika Network understand how to "leave" total score is 1:.. 1
as for reliability Tale, the other day on one computer in my dead 18 gigs a cheetah after just two years of operation there is worth it. some Seagate ide-shny, sorokovke, also 2 years - is rushing So what about the "one-time" you hurried Although the overall rights -.. Tale reliable.
24.10.2002 15:39:00
To be honest about the cheetah - at the house it costs the same, also in the 18 gig, he contagion, heated God forbid. Without forced cooling temperature at the "bank" of 45 degrees, forced ozhlazhzheniem healed. If such a situation, the lack of alternatives in pomenke agree with, more better to have a screw and ohlozhlat it. . . Hours
way at the same st318406 (Cheetah 36ES) 1200000 hours! ! ! !
24.10.2002 23:39:00

And what you cooled your cat? I had t. N. "Ultimate hardcooler" - it is such garbage out of the blue aluminum radiators throughout the area Hardy (incidentally, bears not so very tight, to the light flashing sparks, like even thermal grease put in their time, but there is a large plastic label, decided that all the same will be to no avail) + two valves 3cm speed so to 2000. all of this crap is put in 5 "slot. the temperature still was not less than 45, the complex stands on a 3D render interior design, has worked all these two years the clock. I told him to replace Chita wanted to buy 36, 7 gigs (18 still is not enough), but only the chief and ordered vyzverilsya ideshnik take - we have 30-ki cheats are: 36ES - 360 bukazoidov and H15-36LP - all 520 - is already ! 4 ide 80-ki
Resolved means - leaving Right now put this very Maxtor in this same "Ultimate" (inherited -!. temperature 35-37 His twin, the second Maxtor is in another computer without any bells and whistles in the lower three-inch slot cradle under it (a little to the side) turns the valve on the blowing of BP, temperature too 35-37. Let's see who will die first.
As for alternatives - you can take the fish-4, but just as many are dead consecutive 3 pieces - I wrote about it in the next branch "to talk about barracuda-4". So, I'm trying to distance itself from them now, as the devil from holy water, and the authorities apparently have not realized such a decision sad all the same - there is almost no reliable screws. . .
25.10.2002 12:20:00
Cool "cat" simple cooler (triple) 5 "slot, but in the IN-WIn Q500 housing. In short there are 5 slot" slots + power supply and the main compartment is divided. The 5 "compartment has room for Bethulia. In short made simple through-blowing. On the screw (on the bank) hanged from the sensor mother. Because of overcrowding wires 5" compartment (RW, Mobilerack), created stressful enough airflow.
Cheetah hanging as a system drive, plus the operational files to work (Photoshop), plus swaps.
25.10.2002 23:16:00
I know this Q500, good body, and our way was almost the same (in the price was known as the Knight).
Okay, about cheetahs in this branch is offtopic, I turned slightly to the discoverer rights. And in fact - I left the Maxtor. Topic think not close, can then share operating experience (God forbid something, to succeed! ).
26.10.2002 2:01:00
Let's hope that everything will be top class. And screw will work ~ 1200000 hours. . . . .
28.10.2002 19:48:00
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Hi ALL,
There Maxtor 3-740: 2 80-ki and 60 ka. During commissioning, it has been observed (by touch), that one 80-ka heated considerably more than two other screws. Check in identical conditions dTemp "ohms (no matter how, the question now is not about the absolute figures and the relative) - indeed, 60-ki 32-34 Celsius, in one 80-ki 35-36, and the other - 42 . -43 and these two 80-ki (or

and maybe one on the liquid, and the other on the usual ball bearings marking varies J If you meet on the penultimate place, then it is a usual ball bearings If the L -?.. the liquid. Neutral on 7200 rev / min is heated much stronger.
28.10.2002 22:37:00

it, I'm fairly competent, from oil balls can distinguish
Screws absolutely identical labeling with honors in three digits in the serial numbers. In addition, my Singaporean screws and collect the liquid appears only in Japan (though I'm not sure about this, just remember that somewhere read about it).
BTW, continuing to pull this hot Maxtor After spending a couple of days to its schedule of reading noticed a slight drop in the disc (hddspeed) and slower download a couple of seconds. His cool fellow exhibits even graph
30.10.2002 13:01:00
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Screws absolutely identical labeling with honors in three digits in the serial numbers. In addition, my screws Singapore and liquid seems

Well, I have often met with the fact that under the same model sold different devices (for example, my Mustek 1200 CP + worked on the newly downloaded drivers just because I not correctly indicate the beginning of the serial number). It's a shame if the changes affected to the downside. But any manufacturer indicates that both may want to change the characteristics of the device, in fact, now there is no registry, which is not a downside: Specifications subject to change without prior notice). You even talk about it is not necessary.

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collected only in Japan (though I'm not sure about this, just remember that somewhere read about it).

Bought recently Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 - made in Singapore, but on liquid bearings.

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BTW, continuing to pull this hot Maxtor After spending a couple of days to its schedule of reading noticed a slight drop in the disc (hddspeed) and slower download a couple of seconds. His cool fellow exhibits even graph

Well, this is not only depends on the temperature, but also on many other parameters. In addition, if the fall is really easy, it can be a natural process, indicating that the new propeller hit you. Follow SMART (should look Raw Value). Pay attention to Seek performance and Hardware ECC Recovered. As for the temperature - so Maxtor "s working temperature up to 55 - 60 degrees (ambient temperature).
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